Fan Reception 2011 - Final Figure and Donations?
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Permalink Reply by Kathy Rosario on
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It is NOT Gail's job to clean up your mess Juliet. Everyone posting here is being more than appropriate considering the gravity of the situation. Gail is the moderator of this forum. I don't think it is very polite to ask Gail to answer for you....not to mention how that could be interpreted. Gail had said to wait until today and see what "letters" are posted. We all read a letter from a friend you have at WA. Nothing more. No last name and no title and no number or email in which to contact her. Every MBC correspondence I have had with Andrena....her full name, title and phone number and email are always listed in addition to the official MBC website. There is no question as to "who" she is.
Kathy and LAFD Bob
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Permalink Reply by sylvia doughty on
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I agree with what Kathy has said as regards Gail that it could be a bit of an imposition to assume because she is moderator that she then should take on the task of also being an arbiter....why should she ??? As regards your statement Juliet, considering you have given us next to nothing, how can you assume it is not going to be enough for surely if you have the proper letters and receipts etc for all that has transpired then they must be able to speak for themselves because they must show the facts and that is all we are asking for.
Sylvia. Your wee Scottish friend.
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Permalink Reply by Debra Tennet on
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Absolutely agree Sylvia, it should be very simple but it's obviously proving to be a very difficult task for some reason.
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I have posted a reply above.
Sophie and I asked what should have been a very straight forward question and never ever imagined we wouldn't get a straight forward answer.
We didn't expect such a reaction from you and Jennifer.
The truth should have come straight away as it always will if someone is telling the truth.
I don't see how just dealing with Gail sorts it out - you both owe us all an explanation, not Gail.
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Permalink Reply by juliet on
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every explanation i have given is not accepted so if gail accepts the same explanations then surely you should too
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'Every explanation'?? Where is that then? Apart from the 'letter' I see no explanation.
A few figures but no explanation. Maybe read back a few posts or better still start at the beginning or ask Jennifer to do it and then simply answer the questions - they've been asked often enough through this discussion.
Why is it proving to be so difficult to answer?
Avoiding it all more like.
I've learnt NEVER to trust you two again.
You can see the questions we are asking but you are not actually answering them.
I think you can see the questions you are just avoiding answering them as your stories don't add up to what you have said in the past and you know we will not like the answers as it will mean you have lied.
There really is nothing else to say as we just keep repeating the questions but not getting any further as you well know, in the hope we will leave it and the truth will never come out.
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i am not sure what else yuo want then Debra - i have read all this thread and cannot fathom what you want
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We are NOT wanting explanations; we are wanting EVIDENCE which you as an organiser of the event should have, or don't you have the evidence ??? I most certainly am not and will not accept explanations which have so far been given because all I can make out that has been said is because of your grief that somehow qualified you both to tell lies.....sorry, can't equate that one but as I have said I am not interested anymore in explanations because the truth will never come out, or at least you won't tell it.
Sylvia. Your wee Scottish friend.
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Permalink Reply by Gail on
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I'm sorry but I'm not going to be the go between on this. I have contacted Andrena and explained to her what is happening and that a check is on the way and to let me know when it arrives so along with a letter to Juliet I can post here when it arrives. As far as the other two charities in the UK you will have to rely on Juliet/Jennifer for those. I see one has been posted by Juliet from one of them. Juliet is there one from the Clic charity yet that I have missed or is that one coming? I think at this point, even though it is past when the contributors feel the info should have come, if confirmation of the other two charities (Michael's and Clic) have received their money this should be settled.
My concern is this thread continuing on as it is on Michael's website and forum. I may have to ask you to continue it in private if this doesn't settle it for you. Gail
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I completely agree Gail. This is not your job and the majority of the fans here would never have put you in such an undignified position. That happening to you speaks volumes of the organizers of the UK reception. You were kind enough to post the comments that you did and I much appreciate that Gail. With that said I will have to settle for the letter written by a "Faye" from WA and whatever comes from Clic. More of the same...I am sure. I know Andrena will send a letter AFTER she receives the donations and her letter will be official. I will cut my losses so to speak and stop posting to a lost cause here knowing that I have been vindicated and knowing I was correct all along about Jennifer's and Juliet's lack of professional experience in fundraising and the serious consequences of such an undertaking when one is ill equipped. I will not at anytime have my reputation tarnished by Jennifer's and Juliet's incompetence. All fans beware in the future!! Thank you Gail for your contributions and I truly appreciate this thread being open for the time that it has. Perhaps the other fans involved will come in and say how they feel also. And fans please continue to donate to the BEST charity represented by the most caring and responsible man dedicated to women's quality of life issues and that charity is Michael Bolton Charities!!!
Kathy and LAFD Bob
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Permalink Reply by Barbara R on
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This is a reply to everyone. It is disappointing to read the comments associated with what appears to be a mismanagement of a UK reception where funds were being raised for various charities that were allegedly endorsed by MB (is my interpretation correct?). As an auditor, I know there can be many reasons for things to not go quite right and I won't go into those reasons. Nevertheless, fans who have contributed financially need an assurance that their funds are being contributed to a sufficient level to the respective charities. I think someone should develop some documented procedures that can easily be followed in future that will result in greater accountability. This will protect not only the organizers but also give peace of mind to those who contribute. Hope this works out for all. Cheers
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Thanks for your reply Barbara R and agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts and it is such a pity that those who professed to be such qualified organizers of such events and totally capable of carrying out every responsibility and obligation which one undertakes when one agrees to take on what they agreed to do, has proven to be anything but and maybe too it is a pity that we, who are involved, took their assurances at face value instead of asking for proof of their qualifications to take on such a task BUT as with many things in life, trust came into play and it was given freely because, as I have said many times, the canniest can be and will be caught by the expert con artist, for that is the one job they can carry out, to perfection.
Thanks again for coming in with your contribution Barbara R !! :)
Sylvia. Your wee Scottish friend.
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